macOS Big Sur

Teddy Blass

Super excited that Pro Tools is now compatible with macOS Big Sur. I've checked with all the various software and plug-in manufactures I use, and pretty much everyone is up to speed.

However the Spitfire plug-in based instruments don't seem to be. Has anyone tried the update to Big Sur? And what kinda bugs have you run in to if so?

Angus

Hi @Teddy Blass,

There are currently no known issues when running our plugins and Kontakt libraries on Big Sur. However, we are not yet fully compatible if you are using an M1 chipset device.

All the best,

Angus

Donald

https://community.spitfireaudio.com/discussion/comment/1174#Comment_1174

Hello Angus -

I have been using an M1 Mac since early February. I have nearly 20 Spitfire libraries and have had no issues using them with Logic under Rosetta. Am I just getting lucky or are these libraries found to be all working perfectly for everyone?

Angus

@Donald yes currently, as long as you run the Spitfire App and your DAW in Rosetta, our plugins are completely functional. If you wish to run the betas they are also available in the link below. They require manual authorisation via Terminal, instructions of which can be found on each product M1 page.

https://spitfireaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017849417-How-to-use-the-Spitfire-Audio-App-and-Plugins-in-Rosetta-Mode

https://spitfireaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017733897-A-list-of-Mac-M1-Big-Sur-Product-BETAs-to-Prevent-Error-1-s

zmiller_music

I'm using Spitfire plugins with an M1 Mac on Big Sur. No problems with Rosetta!

Michael Omer

@Angus So, for the avoidance of doubt, (and disappoinment!) my M1 Mac Mini running Big Sur 11.2 with 16GB memory, and Logic 10.6.1 WILL WORK..? 😀 Want to purchase the SSD Pro version - Regards, Michael

Michael Omer

@Angus PS Further to my earlier post, not sure if Logic 10.6.1 is running in Rosetta - as it is Apple I assume it is optimised for M1? If this is the case, will the BBC Symphony plugin library function Ok in Rosetta? TIA

mturner

I was able to get BBCSO and Logic 10.6 running on my M1 MacBook Pro under Big Sur (11.2). I had to do two things:

1) Logic is in Rosetta mode

2) Spitfire Audio app in Rosetta mode (repaired all libraries in Rosetta mode).

Not sure these instructions are definitive, but they worked for me.

-- Mitch

Michael Omer

Thanks @[email protected] for that! Appreciate it.

I have now seen that elsewhere too, but all that "repairing libraries" seems a bit nuts! I have a query in with 'customre support' now, to find out when they will have the fully compatible Apple Carbon version to release - the Beta is out ther after all.

It's a HUGE investment for the Pro version (and I was going to get it on the SSD too) - so I really want it to work straight 'out of the box'!!! Thanks again.

Angus

@Michael Omer just to confirm, BBC SO will work on Mac M1 either by using our Betas to run Natively in Logic or Garageband, or by using Rosetta mode with Logic and the Spitfire Audio App.

Please note that we have currently found 11.2.2 OS update has a bug that has dropped support for Rosetta. We're awaiting more detail on this from Apple.

theChef

Hello all I have new m1 Bug sur... I have BBC Orchestra thats does not work nor do any of my LABS

I have followed all the Tech items to do a work around. I am using FL Studio Does any one have any suggestions?

I have not tried to use bbc with Logic yet, as FL is my main DAW

Angus

@theChef as FL isn't compatible yet, you should switch the App to Rosetta mode and repair all the libraries that are affected:

https://spitfireaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017849417-How-to-use-the-Spitfire-Audio-App-and-Plugins-in-Rosetta-Mode

https://spitfireaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011110118-How-to-Repair-All-LABS-Libraries

theChef

Thanks i will give this a try

theChef

ok, so this fixed the BBC Orchestra Item but not the LABS

I am re - installing all the labs now

Angus

@theChef make sure you repair all LABS libraries:

https://spitfireaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011110118-How-to-Repair-All-LABS-Libraries

Teddy Blass

https://community.spitfireaudio.com/discussion/comment/1174#Comment_1174

Thank you for the reply. Excited to upgrade!

Chrisna

@Angus Is there any benefit to using the ARM versions of the Spitfire Standalone Plugin (for example less RAM usage). BBC SO is quite low on RAM resources (using Mix 1), so any improvement there would be great.

Jack

https://community.spitfireaudio.com/discussion/comment/1538#Comment_1538

You shouldn't see much any performance changes between ARM versions vs Rosetta version / intel versions. Ram will be consistent. Best way to make RAM improvements would be to remove unused articulations from the patches you use.

DrTimV

I've been using Spitfire plugins on both an M1 Macbook running Big Sur and an Intel desktop running Big Sur without any issues with Logic Pro X.

pablovox

I have a 2018 Mac Mini running Catalina 10.15.7 and using Logic Pro X. Am using many Spitfire libraries with no issues. Am hesitant to upgrade to Big Sur. Can anyone provide insight / experience upgrading a 2018 Mac Mini to Big Sur and share your results? Thanks in advance...

pablovox

Angus….I have a 2018 Mac Mini running Catalina 10.15.7 and using Logic Pro X. Am using many Spitfire libraries with no issues. Am hesitant to upgrade to Big Sur because of comparability issues. Bottom line question is should I go to Big Sur or stay with Catalina?

Danilo

Salve, quando sarà possibile usare Bbc Orchestra, ma anche gli altri plugin Spitfire su Logic Pro senza Rosetta?

Chrisna

@pablovox I know my answer comes late, but as a rule of thumb, it's usually advisable to upgrade, once the next version of macOS is announced. For example: It's usually safe to upgrade to Big Sur once Apple unveils macOS Monterey. By that point most developers should have their software made compatible.