Is there a way to combine 2 articulations with key swithes?

Doc Bob

I am using a combination of longs and staccatissimo I can combine them in the BBCSO app using the shift key but if I put both articulations in the midi piano roll it chooses only one. Is it possible to combine the key switches?

Angus

Hi @Doc Bob

You should be able to select two articulations at the same time using shift + click as you mention.

Unfortunately, selecting more than one articulation via Keyswitching is not yet a feature, but our team are aware of this request already.

Dann

You can do this already if you set your articulation trigger to MIDI channel and set a different MIDI channel for each articulation. Then stack 2 notes on top of each other each with the articulations you want to happen at the same time. I only use MIDI channels for articulation changes, no more clumsy keyswitching.

Doc Bob

Anyone have an idea?

Taron

Well, if nobody reacts, chances are that your post may have to act as inspiration for SA. 🤓👍️

Since their plugin is open to do anything it wishes with incoming Midi data, they could implement solutions for that in any possible way. Be that based on two keyswitches at the exact same time, or at some given time-interval threshold (possibly parametric), the plugin could be written to stack articulations, either with no limit (any number of articulations could get stacked) or possibly some sensible combinations (stac/long, trem/sus, whatever made any sense). Certainly this could get dicey, because of memory usage and/or other performance related challenges.

Hmmm, imagine, if it could use the velocity of keyswitches to control expression of that articulation or as parameter value that could be routed (lowpass, vibrato, anything really)? Uhhh... that could be exciting for stacking.

So, if anything, you may have brought up a great inspiration for some future improvements!? 😃

Doc Bob

OK. The workaround is to keep combo articulations on separate tracks. Hopefully there’ll be a keyswitch fix in time.

Thanks for the replies😀

cmillar

I'll add my vote for the ability to have 'two articulations at the same time' being switched on at the same time, without having to use the computer keyboard and Shift to do so.

Maybe..being able to have a 'user preset' of your chosen 'duo articulation'?

Being able to assing your own MIDI control or keyswitch to the new duo-articulation?

That would be very handy!

(Amazing product by the way)

tripleB

July 2022, I posted in FB and it seems this is still not implemented? Any updates? I use multi keyswitches in Albion. Would like to be able to in BBCSO.

PPH

https://community.spitfireaudio.com/discussion/comment/8069#Comment_8069

This hasn't worked for me. I have a project in which I have several percussion "instruments" pointing to the same instance of BBC SO Core, but using different MIDI channels. I have configured the BBC SO instance so that, e.g. the bass drum is channel 1 and the snare is channel 2. I did this by making a new user preset for untined percussion instruments. I disabled the key switches, and assigned each "articulation" (actually, each different instrument such as triangle, snare) to its own MIDI channel instead. But when two different articulations are played, only one of them sounds.

Baby_Model_Berg

It seems to be specific to Untuned Percussion (possibly others; too early in the morning to go digging through every instrument, lol).

Out of curiosity while checking another post, I pulled up Violins 1, set two of the articulations to the same Keyswitch value (in this case, Long and Staccato as C#-1), after which playing any note in range for the instrument played BOTH articulations at the same time. I imagine this might be a useful "feature" where someone wants to use a particular combination of techniques for some passages, but be able to keyswitch in/out of individual/multiple techniques within the same track/instance. This basically allows the user to configure how the instance should respond to any particular keyswitch (which kind of seems how "settings" like this should work anyway, eh?), and then just act accordingly when received. Of course, that would mean you can't use the same technique both individually and in combination with another on the same track (not via the Keyswitch method anyway, unless they change the plug-in to allow the same technique to be added more than once), but could still be useful. Not sure whether this "by design" or just "coincidental", but definitely interesting...🤔

For Untuned Percussion, as Angus mentioned, it seems the devs are aware of the request, and we'll just need to wait and see how they approach it.