OUT NOW: ABBEY ROAD ORCHESTRA - LOW PERCUSSION
Introducing the most detailed sample library we have ever created, and the first in a new flagship series created in partnership with Abbey Road Studios. Crafted for professional composers, producers and sound designers, Abbey Road Orchestra will bring you every section of the orchestra in breathtaking detail. Low Percussion offers you a whole new level of expression, thanks to over 20 years of sampling experience and innovation.
Performed by internationally-renowned percussionist Joby Burgess (Black Panther, Mission: Impossible), and engineered by Grammy-winning engineer Simon Rhodes (Skyfall, Avatar), it’s like having your very own world-class percussionist.
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its great but will there be strings coming as well or is that just abbey road two0
Is Abbey Road Orchestral Foundations complete now, or will there still be updates?0
We need to know the road map as not buying into this if its going to cost 8k to complete. Please let us know what's planned. Thanks3
I would also like to know the answer to this too. Thanks1
Let me start by saying that I’m a huge Spitfire fan and have spent a ridiculous amount of money on their libraries.
I’m afraid that I won’t be getting this library or any future ones in the collection. Here’s why.
I pre purchased Abbey Road One before it was released. I initially thought it was a good idea to release the selections separately, but TWO YEARS on it’s not complete...erm I think. We’ve had Low Strings, and several brass and woodwind selections “drip fed” every few months and still no high strings legatos.
We did get Abbey Road Two (totally separate library) and now Abbey Road Orchestra!
In my humble opinion, when you release a new library then make all of it available at the same time. Of course, you can make it modular by selling sections separately to make it more affordable (like Studio Orchestra, Symphony Orchestra) but releasing sections every few months is a non-starter. We don’t even know what the final collection will consist of! Perhaps there isn’t high strings legatos for ARO1 and we’ve made the wrong assumption?
From this new release it appears that everything will be broken down in sub sections. Low Percussion at £399! So, I assume there are several percussion sections, mid/hi, tuned percussion, timpani etc etc. Maybe £1K+ plus for percussion alone…anyone’s guess.
Low woods, hi woods, low brass, mid brass?…..you get my point? And then there’s the strings….
Who knows how long it will take for Abbey Road Orchestra Violins 1 to be released? It could be years away if ARO1 is anything to go by!
Whether you are a “pro” or not, you don’t want to be waiting years to complete a full library and you certainly need to know what the final collection and cost will be.
I love the sound, clarity, and performance options of the drums, but I also agree a roadmap would help me decide whether to buy into this orchestra or not if it is truly the new flagship considering just the low perc is 100GB alone. Is the entire orchestra going to be in the 1-2TB range?0
Happy to see I’m not the only one slightly confused about the roadmap for ABR1. I thought we were getting legato patches for the high&low strings in ABR1 next, then comes an unexpected library and with a different name-ending, what do we make of this? It’s not clear as a consumer if this is an addition to the original ABR1 or if you guys (devs) are making a completely new (Orchestra) library. It’s not great for consumers not knowing where the end of the product is, when is ABR1 finished and what will it cost? I won’t buy more sections until there’s a clear answer. I completely agree with @SteveShaw2
I agree to that. I also own a lot of Spitfire stuff and all Abbey Roads, but now I got fully confused. While they other Abbey Roads are not finished at all, they start again a new one??? Feels like taking the most money from everybody leaving loyal customers somewhat in the dark of their strategy. But anyway, if Spitfire just want to make more money that's a good way - getting loyal customers is a different one.1
Well, I’ll just add to the chorus here. I’ve also spent a ridiculous amount of money (over 10k) with Spitfire. With good reason though. Spitfire products seem to have that extra something that gets those creative justices flowing. I also purchased the full AROP and AR2. It’s extremely frustrating because I’m always supplementing the library with BBCOP and Waves Abbey Road Plugins. While this works most of the time - it’s a real drag on workflow, my PC, and my temperament.
Spitfire owes its long time customers a roadmap for all of the Abbey Road Products. I just can’t use this library until it’s completed. This peeved me off a year ago when AR2 came out and I’ve gone full in with Orchestral Tools. While they do not release things as frequently, the player is superior and the company’s products are complete when they are released. They are even porting all of their legacy kontakt releases over to the new player and giving it away to customers that already owned the kontakt version.
That’s a company I’ll stand by. You folks need some new leadership and sack the marketing team.2
Yeah, I’m not buying into this orchestra without a roadmap. Not knowing what will be released or when and how much it will cost is a no go for me. Paul mentioned it is a long term release, but what is “long term”. Like how long will one have to wait for the full orchestra? I bought AROOF and all the selections and this one is a mystery to me. I have no understanding of what their plan is for these orchestras but this is frustrating. I’m sure the libraries will be great, but without knowing more, I’m out.3
Please Spitfire Audio provide us with more details what will be the next steps ? Thank you1
Same feeling here… ARO was supposed to be Spitfire’s largest project to date. My understanding was that the pairing would eventually be accompanied by individual instruments. Now this new branding… They’re in the same room, but are the sections the same? Placement? Mics? There’s zero info about how this fits into the ARO world. ARO is still unusable as a whole. Not super happy…2
I'm a great fan of Spitfire and Spitfire libraries but I do feel that a bit more clarity is needed here. I'm sure there is a concept and roadmap behind this. It wouldn't make business sense if it didn't have one. I think a bit more sharing on approximate timescales etc would be helpful and would promote sales of what I'm sure will be a great product line.2
I'll add my voice to this ensemble too. Wholeheartedly agree with all the comments here.
I'm a big Spitfire fan, spent a lot of money on some wonderful libraries but beginning to think you've adopted a less than fair attitude to your product marketing and strategy.
I've bought into the AROOF collection but, like so many others, have fully expected to see a High Strings Legato module to, kind of, complete the set. No word on whether such a module is forthcoming at some point but now we have the first instalment of ARO. Immediately know that this library, as a hobbyist, will not be for me but, echoing Steve Shaw's views above, I think you owe it to your customer base to be far more transparent about this product's roadmap and eventual cost. What is the point of buying into a system now that could take years to finally complete and cost several thousands?3
100% agree with this. I love the idea of being able to purchase just the bits you need, but do it like Orchestral Tools. Release a complete product and then slice and dice it for people who can't afford, or don't need to buy the whole thing in one go. I don't want to start collecting an orchestra without knowing what I'm going to end up with. Seriously, Spitfire - legato octave strings at least? for Abbey Road One?1
I was happy to see these inputs as I am also confused and also a bit frustrated with this new library which goes into the strategy employed by VSL with their Synchron 3 percussion libraries. As most of you, I have spent a large amount on SA libraries to get a complete balanced orchestra and particularly to get a good percussion instrument and articulation set. Development and innovation are great but I would rather see it in the form of updates of existing products without having to start « afresh » with a new orchestra series.
I started my SA journey with ARO which has a fair amount of low percussion instruments but lacks articulations. Despite all additional selections, it does not seem a finished product and this new library is not an extension of ARO. It is independent like the AR2 string library. At the moment I use a mix of SA Percussion (also by Jody Burgess), BBCSO and « the ultimate cinematic percussion library » HZ Percussion Pro. Sometimes not easy to balance but with a template it works fine and leaves little to wish for in terms of instruments and offers a fair amount of articulations and « beaters ».
The only missing function in all these libraries is a dedicated damping key in particular of interest for cymbals but also for timpani and low drums. So the possibility to let a note ring for a defined number of beats and then damp it by sending. a midi signal . Of course best using a dedicated crossfaded damping sample for the instrument. Does this new library have such a functionality?0
i absolutely agree 100% to what Steve said. As a huge fan of SFA Libs (and yes I also spent more than I should) I would like to know in which direction ABO ist going.
And to be honest I expected more from AR1. The idea of a modular Orch is good but after legend strings it took the wrong direction. Who needs Reeds, Trumpets, etc where the colors are remodeled sets of famous Cues?
I mean Wounderous Flutes will always sound like Hedwigs coming flying into my studio.
A moduled based Orch where you can grow with or buy it completely from the beginning is the right way. I understand the necessary of if recording bits and section while COVID but now I think we are back to normality.
hope you will give us information about the timeline of ARO
greetings from Germany0
I personally thought that it would be the high string section, but I will say that Spitfire, you need to work on your communication on AR1. You can't leave us in the dark like this without telling us whether or not it the orchestra and its scoring selections are finished.0
The more I use ARO Low Percussion, the more I find myself drawn to the combination of Pop Close combined with the Close Ribbon and a hint of Outrigger 1 on a number of the drums. It really feels present/poppy in mixes, especially with the Dragon Drums. People underestimate how flexible the mic positions are to help shape the sounds and often complain about how large the libraries are. I'm happier that these options exist and make the libraries so much more flexible. I would like larger SSDs, but with time, those prices on 8TB SSDs will be close to what I paid for my 4TB drives. Congrats on this release! I was skeptical that I would pick the library up when it was released (given that I already had HZ Perc, Damage2, Cerberus, etc), but overall, these are great drums!
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I'm so confused about what's going on with ARO with this release. Are we getting individual section legatos without 8va or not? I'd love to buy your entire ARO libraries, but unless there's confirmation we'll see non 8va legato for every section I don't think I can pull the trigger. I was hoping ARO would be just as detailed in articulations as BBCO. But it feels like we're being lefty in the dark without any sort of customer communication.1
Yes, I agree. Percussion is good example. Now we've Low, Hight, Metal ... what next Tympani? It means like 350EUR per library, like 1000EUR total for non-complete percussion section. Without spend-extrapolation. Strings will be High, Low, First-chair, Extra and FX articulations?
And sure all this is excellent work, this is reason why I've already bought all of them. But every next release makes more tension and press for budget ... please, be more sensible for composers, usually it's not Pro with huge budget but many kind of media composers with limited resources ...1
Just commenting to add to what everyone else is saying.
I will buy the $50 Abbey Road One expansions until the cows come home. I love the sound and I love the focus on specific instrument combinations, even if I don't quite love the premium price point. I'm still hoping for string legatos and a harp / percussion expansion, as I think those are its main gaps.
I will probably never touch the new Abbey Road Orchestra. It's too expensive and takes up way too much space for me. Of course, I know I'm not the target audience for that product. But I wonder if Spitfire's decision to put off finishing Abbey Road One for this new, bigger library makes any business sense? It's certainly turning a lot of devoted customers away, it seems.1
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